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and on election day, voters in three states approved same-sex marriage. "outfront," mckay coppins, tim carney and maria cardona, cnn contributor and democratic strategist. this is kind of big news in all of this. tim, you saw the polls. now the supreme court will get involved in this. should this signal something to the republican party? should they say it's reached this level, we need to rethink our position on this? >> polls are one thing. there's also the fact most states don't have gay marriage yet and most of those that do, it was not put in by the will of the people. i'm a marylander. we did -- our state did vote for gay marriage. most of them had to do with judges ruling. if the supreme court does for gay marriage what it did for abortion and roe v. wade and said, no, this is not in the hands of the people. we're going to say there's gay marriage, that would do a lot to fire up the republican base and could turn this issue on its head and it could become a big winner for republicans because they'd feel disenfranchised. >> what about the flip side?
and on election day, voters in three states approved same-sex marriage. "outfront," mckay coppins, tim carney and maria cardona, cnn contributor and democratic strategist. this is kind of big news in all of this. tim, you saw the polls. now the supreme court will get involved in this. should this signal something to the republican party? should they say it's reached this level, we need to rethink our position on this? >> polls are one thing. there's also the fact most states...
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engage in policies that damage everyone's wellbeing over the long term looking out for their own re-election prospects. >> wait, wait. >> they're really political rather than looking out for the long-term interests of the citizens, their states and also the country as a whole. >> last i checked -- >> beforehand rather than subsidize development and dangerous areas and that's moral hazard and that's something that's bringing the country to the knees economically. >> last i checked you look out for yourself. >> that's public servants are supposed to do, roland. >> no. in new york, you are concerned about new york and not california. you focus on where you are. that's the reality. >> all right. we are going to hit pause there. please let us know what you think about that conversation on twitter and facebook page. >>> next, when's a bigger insult? being called, you know, lame duck congress or new york jet? ts to test the 2.0-liter turbo engine. [ engine revs ] ♪ [ derek ] 272 horsepower. the lightest in its class. the cadillac ats outmatches the bmw 3 series. i cannot believe i have ended the
engage in policies that damage everyone's wellbeing over the long term looking out for their own re-election prospects. >> wait, wait. >> they're really political rather than looking out for the long-term interests of the citizens, their states and also the country as a whole. >> last i checked -- >> beforehand rather than subsidize development and dangerous areas and that's moral hazard and that's something that's bringing the country to the knees economically. >>...
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they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have governors. a lot of diversity. duval patrick and we can all look as governor cuomo, you have elizabeth warren that might be considered presidential. so i don't want to throw all our eggs in one basket because there are so many wonderful people. martin o'malley, for example, the governor of colorado. like the republicans, this will be a large field of candidates, but there's fo question if secretary of state hillary clinton decided to throw her gloves into the race, game on. >> she got a lot of competition. >> david frum, you think the republican party's
they're going to help determine future elections. i think paul ryan and marco rubio, they're trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and perhaps big ideas and a larger goal post. but i want to say this because i have to say this as vice chair of the party. as you know, the democratic party has a large and broad and deep base including vice president biden, who's done a terrific job in his capacity as the second in command, but also, we have...
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he could be concerned about every citizen in the state that he was elected to serve. his job -- those are his constituents and that's his job. >> look, i see where you come from. we have to think about this in a broader sense. if every state is looking out for itself, there's going to free ride. they're going to engage in policies that damage everyone's well-being over the long term by looking out for their own re-election prospects. these guys are being political rather than looking out for the long-term interests of their citizens, their states and also the country as a whole. rather than sub sid dies development in really dangerous areas. that's called moral hazard, and that's something that's really bringing the country to its knees economically. >> last i checked, you look out for yourself. you might say that's not a great idea, if you're in new york -- actually, no, if you're in new york you're concerned about new york and not about california. you focus on where you are. that's a reality. >> all right. thanks very much to both of us. please let us know what you
he could be concerned about every citizen in the state that he was elected to serve. his job -- those are his constituents and that's his job. >> look, i see where you come from. we have to think about this in a broader sense. if every state is looking out for itself, there's going to free ride. they're going to engage in policies that damage everyone's well-being over the long term by looking out for their own re-election prospects. these guys are being political rather than looking out...
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that's the ticket for admission because the president won the election and campaigned on that. the democrats are going to have to agree. they'll use uf -- and that means health care for seniors and poor people and special needs kids. that is not an easy thing to ask anybody to do, let alone the democratic party. which really created these programs. this is going to be awful and gruesome, but 70 for 60 in your poll, 60% of americans want to raise taxes on well off americans. 70% don't want to cut or 80, don't want to cut medicare or medicaid, so the hard stuff is coming. this is the easy stuff. >> we're out of time, guys. nice to talk to you. i appreciate it. >>> next, violent clashes along the turkey, syria border and a new heir to the british throne is on the way. our piers morgan will explain the fuss. that's coming up next. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. ♪ â™
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he has the authority of an election behind him. running for office is a difficult thing to do, and the people that win the elections have a lot more moral authority in a democracy than people who talk about elections. >> ryan, that does seem to be the point. people like grover norquist may not like it and republicans may not like it, but that wasn't what this election said american people want. the majority of them. >> i think it's certainly true you have a large number of americans, 60%, according to a "washington post" abc news poll who favor raising taxes on folks earning more than $250,000 a year. but there are a couple other things to keep in mind, as well. president obama often talks about returning to clinton era tax rates. he wants to raise much more revenue from high earners than the clinton era tax code would have raised. another thing to keep in mind is that president clinton also dramatically lowered capital gains taxes, and that generally benefited high-earners. so a lot of folks believe that's something that balanced
he has the authority of an election behind him. running for office is a difficult thing to do, and the people that win the elections have a lot more moral authority in a democracy than people who talk about elections. >> ryan, that does seem to be the point. people like grover norquist may not like it and republicans may not like it, but that wasn't what this election said american people want. the majority of them. >> i think it's certainly true you have a large number of...
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>>> the first jobs report comes out since the election. far from the east coast, one midwestern community has positive thoughts about their community. largely because of the landscape developing at an astonishing speed. >>> the pioneer spirit is burning brightly. much of it occurs in a few small neighborhoods. >> i can go local. >>> mike farmer is the ceo of leap 2. a company with a highly advanced mobile search app. >> people stop by the office every day. it's fascinating. >> that must feel pretty good. >> yeah, it does. >> one big reason these companies are clustering here is that google chose this neighborhood to launch its much anticipated super high speed internet connection. 100 times faster than most internet links, google fiber allows massive video data and graphic files to move at astonishing speed, permitting development of whole new applications. >> this is exactly what you wanted. >> that's exactly it. we wanted local entrepreneurs to take advantage of the faster speeds google fiber would bring, and develop. the skies the limit
>>> the first jobs report comes out since the election. far from the east coast, one midwestern community has positive thoughts about their community. largely because of the landscape developing at an astonishing speed. >>> the pioneer spirit is burning brightly. much of it occurs in a few small neighborhoods. >> i can go local. >>> mike farmer is the ceo of leap 2. a company with a highly advanced mobile search app. >> people stop by the office every day....
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it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> what we can't do is sit here trying to figure out what works for them. >> the president's idea of a negotiation is roll over and do what i ask. >> it's pretty clear to me they've made a political calculation. >> if their ideas are different from ours, we can't guess what they are. >> we look forward to the time when they are specific. >> they need to be more specific. >> some specificity from republicans. >> some of their specifics. >> that's a decision that lies in the hands of the republicans. >> i
it's the job the american people elected them to do and the american people expect results. they want compromise. in fact, two separate cnn/orc polls, in those polls, an overwhelming number of people, 72%, said both sides should do a better job working together in general. so the people, that's you, want compromise. yet this is how the men and women on capitol hill, the men and women you elected to work for you, have responded over the last 48 hours. >> i think we're going over the cliff....
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it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and the youth and this sort of idealism might perhaps come from a rubio or ryan on the republican side? >> well, if i look at that poll you were referring to, hillary clinton is the overwhelming favorite among young people, especially young women. young people and young women, clearly they're going to help determine future elections. look, i think paul ryan and marco rubio, are trying to rebrand themselves and recast the republican party as a party of diversity and, perhaps, big ideas and a larger goalpost. i want to also say this because i have to say this as
it will not be a 57/30 election. >> it always tightens. i'm curious about the other side since you're talking about 2008. marco rubio and paul ryan both spoke at this dinner and they were -- these were speeches where they're trying to define themselves as who they are. both probably going to run in 2016. how would a rubio/ryan stack up against a hillary clinton? in a sense it sort of feels like 2008 reversed, right, except for experience would come on the democratic side with hillary and...
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she noted that the 2012 election had just ended. she didn't rule out the possibility of a senate run in the future. let's see if she's interested. >> that's absolutely right. >>> "erin burnett outfront" starts at the top of the hour. erin, we hear you've arranged quite the debate over whether republicans should compromise on taxes. give us a preview. >> we are going to have both sides of that. grover norquist, of course, already our guest. he's going to say, we shouldn't have tax increases in this country no matter what, no matter how, no way. then we'll have republican tom cole on, who broke ranks with the republican party, who says, let's extend the bush tax cuts for people making under $250,000 a year and do the rest of it later. something sort of like what the president had put forth. so both of those sides tonight. and then we'll talk about the movie "zero dark 30," already getting oscar buzz, about the raid and capture of osama bin laden. there was all of this concern about whether there was classified information that was lin
she noted that the 2012 election had just ended. she didn't rule out the possibility of a senate run in the future. let's see if she's interested. >> that's absolutely right. >>> "erin burnett outfront" starts at the top of the hour. erin, we hear you've arranged quite the debate over whether republicans should compromise on taxes. give us a preview. >> we are going to have both sides of that. grover norquist, of course, already our guest. he's going to say, we...
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another reason might be the presidential elections in south korea, which are december 19th. maybe they want to influence or disrupt them. the third is the traditional north korea action to get attention. here we are. we've been out of the headlines, middle east, gaza, rockets there, we're back. and this is what we're capable of doing. those are the three potential reasons that i see. one most likely being kim jun jung-il. he wants to show his people that he governs a powerful nation that wants to show it's nation. >> he is approaching, as chris said, the first anniversary of his rule. how should the international community react when this launch takes place, assuming it's successful. >> i would say the launch will happen. obviously, it's a test of missile technology. the international community, the security council, will invoke more sanctions, the united states and south korea will pursue individual sanctions, it's an act of defiance, but i have said before on your program, that there is something about this guy that may be educated in the united states, educated in switzer
another reason might be the presidential elections in south korea, which are december 19th. maybe they want to influence or disrupt them. the third is the traditional north korea action to get attention. here we are. we've been out of the headlines, middle east, gaza, rockets there, we're back. and this is what we're capable of doing. those are the three potential reasons that i see. one most likely being kim jun jung-il. he wants to show his people that he governs a powerful nation that wants...
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. >> the lunch took place in november 2008, a week after the election. obama won the white house. but gays and lesbians lost the right to marry in california. >> we're trying to figure out what we do next. then we thought about the idea of a possible legal challenge to proposition 8, and serendipitously, a friend of my wife's came by the table. >> the friend suggested they would find an ally in her former brother-in-law who turned out to be ted olsen, a towering figure in the conservative legal movement. so that stunned you, right? >> yes, it more than stunned me. it stunned me, but i said if this is true, this is the home run of all times. i mean, the idea that ted olsen, this arch conservative, the solicitor general for george bush who had argued bush v. gore and basically put me in bed for a couple days, i was so depressed after bush v. gore, was interested in gay rights. i thought, let's check it out. >> didn't you have any doubts about ted olsen? >> you know, they say that politics makes strange bed fellows. you don't have a stranger bed fellow than me and ted olsen. >> i was
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you won't see al elects rodriguez taking grounders in spring training. the yankees say a-rod will have surgery next month on his left hip. he's expected to be out four to six months. as you well know, a-rod turns 38 next year and is currently owed $114 million through the 2017 season. a-rod's surgery will be similar to one he had on his other hip. >>> and hockey fans get thrown out for throwing stuff on the ice but not at the calgary hit men's annual teddy bear toss. when they score their first goal, fans tossed out more than 21,000 teddy bears onto the ice. it took 45 minutes to pick all that stuff up. the stuffed animals were given to needy kids with the players helping to hand them out. that's awesome. and that's a look at sports this morning. >>> the next hour of cnn "newsroom" starts right now. >>> stories we're watching right now in the "newsroom." drone debate. iran says it has another u.s. unmanned aircraft and it says we shall trample on the united states. >>> she was shot and killed by an nfl player before he turned the gun on himself. now some
you won't see al elects rodriguez taking grounders in spring training. the yankees say a-rod will have surgery next month on his left hip. he's expected to be out four to six months. as you well know, a-rod turns 38 next year and is currently owed $114 million through the 2017 season. a-rod's surgery will be similar to one he had on his other hip. >>> and hockey fans get thrown out for throwing stuff on the ice but not at the calgary hit men's annual teddy bear toss. when they score...
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presidential election is over. the federal reserve, by the way, will be watching to see what the fed does in terms of monetary policy. we know it will keep interest rates very low. will they have any stimulus up their sleeve? all of this are things we're still looking forward to. fiscal cliff still hanging over us. markets, at least, are telling us that we think washington will get its act together, avert the fiscal cliff and like what they see from the jobs report this morning. >> my goodness. that's optimism there. can you talk to me a little more about this job market shrinking and that maybe why the unemployment rate dropped? >> two surveys that the government takes, household survey where they call thos thousands of people at home and ask, are you working? that's the number that gives us the unemployment rate. they also talked to thousands and thousands of companies and they say how many jobs do you have? how many jobs have you added? that's how you get that net job creation number up 146,000. when the governm
presidential election is over. the federal reserve, by the way, will be watching to see what the fed does in terms of monetary policy. we know it will keep interest rates very low. will they have any stimulus up their sleeve? all of this are things we're still looking forward to. fiscal cliff still hanging over us. markets, at least, are telling us that we think washington will get its act together, avert the fiscal cliff and like what they see from the jobs report this morning. >> my...
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to cut crime or save an election? what we do know is the money was spread out on chicago's south and southwest sides. the idea? get communities involved to stop the violence. >> nri! nri! >> how? on this chilly afternoon teenagers across chicago's south side are paid to hand out flyers, and spread a message of nonviolence. the nri is credited with creating about 3,500 temporary jobs, mentoring youth and parents, providing re-entry services and counseling in schools, but our four-month investigation found the jobs not only included handing out those flyers, but also attending yoga class, taking museum field trips, even marching with the governor in a parade. the jobs are now gone. cnn has taken an extensive look at where the money went, what it did, and most importantly, the timing of how the program was rolled out. the neighborhood recovery initiative began sending money to tough neighborhoods in the city of chicago right before chicago voters went to the polls. according to these minutes from a state meeting, a membe
to cut crime or save an election? what we do know is the money was spread out on chicago's south and southwest sides. the idea? get communities involved to stop the violence. >> nri! nri! >> how? on this chilly afternoon teenagers across chicago's south side are paid to hand out flyers, and spread a message of nonviolence. the nri is credited with creating about 3,500 temporary jobs, mentoring youth and parents, providing re-entry services and counseling in schools, but our...
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there has been an election. but it does reprise a lot of the arguments from the negotiations between the president and john boehner in the summer of 2011. it's not something that really should be laughed off the page. i mean, the most difficult thing for republicans is accepting an increase in the top rate for the top earners in the tax rate which they don't want to do in this proposal but which they don't ever have to vote for in order to have it happen. i think somehow that will be a key element. >> it's a bad thing that the white house immediately dismissed -- i mean it couldn't have been three hours, four hours maybe. >> i think the president has decided to take a very different approach than he did in 2011. he's not going to put on the table what he thinks the final deal is. he's going to say no, he's going to negotiate it a tough way. the proposal and i hope ron is right and i kind of thing that in the end, as with t.a.r.p. in 2008, when everybody rebelled, and then the markets crashed they got to the righ
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crist was elected governor as a republican in 2006, then later ran for the senate as an independent. he campaigned for president obama, and spoke at the democratic national convention. he's now officially a democrat and is widely expected to run for governor again in 2014. >>> south africa's beloved nelson mandela is getting tests in a hospital. the country's president says no cause for alarm there. he says the 94-year-old mandela is getting tests consistent with his age. the nobel laureate became his nation's first black president. >>> the fbi wants to talk to a man in custody in egypt. he's a well known islamic extremist. that's why egypt wanted him taken down. but american terrorist watchers think he might be behind the deadly attacks this year at the u.s. consulate in libya. cnn's susan candiotti has more from new york now. >> investigators have had this man on their radar for some time. and now he's being called a possible suspect in the benghazi attacks. mohamed jamaal abu ahmed was arrested by egyptian authorities a couple of weeks ago. and remains in custody while the investi
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this is impressive given by the uncertainty of the presidential election. businesses are holding firm in their hiring and firing decisions. another unusual factor in the numbers, the layoffs and strikes at hostess. those could also affect the numbers. hostess filed for bankruptcy last month. i want to bring you up to speed on facebook moving on up. the social network will be listed oven the nasdaq 100. it could be added to the s&p 500 soon. the shares were down nearly 30% since that much-hyped ipo. market value is about $60 billion. it would rank monothe top 50 largest companies on the index. one strategist says the move is eminent. >>> we're following breaking news. an earthquake rattles tokyo and there are injuries reported. >>> hold up, an escalator goes out of control with shoppers aboard sending them flying. many of my patients still clean their dentures with toothpaste. but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can m
this is impressive given by the uncertainty of the presidential election. businesses are holding firm in their hiring and firing decisions. another unusual factor in the numbers, the layoffs and strikes at hostess. those could also affect the numbers. hostess filed for bankruptcy last month. i want to bring you up to speed on facebook moving on up. the social network will be listed oven the nasdaq 100. it could be added to the s&p 500 soon. the shares were down nearly 30% since that...
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in the election last month four states voted in favor of same-sex marriage. 33 states in a row previously had voted against it, so the momentum is certainly with supporters of same-sex marriage, but where the court -- how the court responds to public opinion is a complicated and not always entirely predictable subject. >> when are we going to find out how the courts will get involved? >> they don't announce when they are issuing orders in an afternoon. it could be 2:00 eastern. it could be 3:00 eastern. that is generally the range in which we should fine out, so it could be 15 minutes away. it could be an hour or so. or they could put it off for another week. they don't have to announce it in advance when they're going to issue these sorts of things. >> we're standing by. we're waiting to find out. jeff, thanks. >> me too. >> good to see you. >>> how to keep astronauts from being exposed to too much radiation in space. our abundant natural gas is already saving us money, producing cleaner electricity, putting us to work here in america and supporting wind and solar. though all energy deve
in the election last month four states voted in favor of same-sex marriage. 33 states in a row previously had voted against it, so the momentum is certainly with supporters of same-sex marriage, but where the court -- how the court responds to public opinion is a complicated and not always entirely predictable subject. >> when are we going to find out how the courts will get involved? >> they don't announce when they are issuing orders in an afternoon. it could be 2:00 eastern. it...
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if our elected leaders don't do something about that looming fiscal cliff. and that is just the beginning. big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male announcer ] ...forbusiness.com. ♪ ha ha! five days later, i had a massive heart attack. bayer aspirin was the first thing the emts gave me. now, i'm on a bayer aspirin regimen. [ male announcer ] be sure to talk to your doctor before you begin an aspirin regimen. [ woman ] learn from my story. >>> welcome back. 16 minutes past the hour. no one can be sure if the white house and congress will steer the country away from that so called fiscal cliff, which now is just 24 days away. but it's probably a good idea for you and your family to be prepared just in case. earlier, i spoke with stephanie rule of bloomberg tv about what could happen if the deal is not reached. >> people talk about the cliff like it's this major event, which it is. but almost like a y2k. from a paycheck perspective, you will see less money in your paycheck if we do fall off
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so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly, carol. one thing that has been interesting with regard to john boehner's leadership of the republican conference, which certainly is very conservative and he has had to balance that with negotiations with the white house on a number of occasions, one thing that's interesting is that until now he really has been able to maintain their loyalty. and their confidence that whatever he does, he he's doing for a reason because the alternative would be worse. and one thing that he did in a very deliberate way on this particular counter offer, which they sent to the white house earlier this week, was it wasn't just a letter from boehner to the president. it was a letter from the entire republican leadership, including p
so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly, carol. one thing that has been interesting with regard to john boehner's leadership of the republican conference, which certainly is very...